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Friday, May 18, 2018
Donald Trump is right. MS-13 members are 'animals.'
“Street gang MS-13, infamous for vicious machete killings, is first to be declared an international criminal group.” That’s a headline from the Daily Mail in 2012.
“The gratuitous acts of violence these now-convicted gang members committed were intended to spread fear.” That’s a description from acting U.S. Attorney John Horn about a 2015 murder conviction in Georgia.
“Video of the mutilated bodies was sent to a girlfriend of one of the victims.” “She was walking home one evening with Nisa, a basketball teammate one day shy of her 16th birthday, when MS-13 members spotted them and attacked with a machete and baseball bats.” “A large butcher knife, a bloodstained baseball hat and three 9mm handguns were also found in the car.”
Those are all different incidents. All MS-13.
On Wednesday, President Trump was speaking as part of his roundtable discussion on California’s sanctuary laws and was asked about MS-13. His response set off a firestorm.
Fresno County Sheriff Margaret Mims brought up the gang and her department’s ability to combat them: “There could be an MS-13 member that I know about” and yet can’t report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Trump replied, saying in part, “These aren't people. These are animals."
The controversy blew up when people and news organizations used the quote or clip without the context of Mims’ question. Trump wasn’t calling all illegal immigrants animals. One widely favored and retweeted response referred to Trump’s remark as the “language of ethnic cleansing.”
The American Heritage Dictionary third definition of “animal” is “a person who behaves in a bestial or brutish manner.” By that definition, “animal” isn’t nearly strong enough.
Today's news spat over MS-13 is part of a longer-running drama. Since Trump took office, there has been an effort to downplay the gang’s significance even as Trump has rhetorically raised its profile.
He's not the only president to do so. In 2012 — you know, under President Obama — MS-13 was formally designated a transnational criminal organization by the Treasury Department. At the time, this was characterized approvingly as a “crackdown” by the Obama administration.
MS-13 (or Mara Salvatrucha), a primarily El Salvador-based gang that started in Los Angeles, was believed to have about 10,000 members across the country at that time and Central America. They were known for hacking enemies to death, executing people in broad daylight in view of witnesses, and fatally beating people with...
“The gratuitous acts of violence these now-convicted gang members committed were intended to spread fear.” That’s a description from acting U.S. Attorney John Horn about a 2015 murder conviction in Georgia.
“Video of the mutilated bodies was sent to a girlfriend of one of the victims.” “She was walking home one evening with Nisa, a basketball teammate one day shy of her 16th birthday, when MS-13 members spotted them and attacked with a machete and baseball bats.” “A large butcher knife, a bloodstained baseball hat and three 9mm handguns were also found in the car.”
Those are all different incidents. All MS-13.
On Wednesday, President Trump was speaking as part of his roundtable discussion on California’s sanctuary laws and was asked about MS-13. His response set off a firestorm.
Fresno County Sheriff Margaret Mims brought up the gang and her department’s ability to combat them: “There could be an MS-13 member that I know about” and yet can’t report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Trump replied, saying in part, “These aren't people. These are animals."
The controversy blew up when people and news organizations used the quote or clip without the context of Mims’ question. Trump wasn’t calling all illegal immigrants animals. One widely favored and retweeted response referred to Trump’s remark as the “language of ethnic cleansing.”
Quickly, though, people on the right (and some journalists) corrected the record. That it was about MS-13 was reported more widely. Even so, many on the left, including notably House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, simply recalibrated to defend the humanity of the gang itself.
“Does he not believe in the spark of divinity, the dignity and worth of every person?” Pelosi asked.
Likewise, CNBC’s John Harwood said, “However repugnant their actions, MS-13 gang members are human beings IMHO.”
Madness.
“Does he not believe in the spark of divinity, the dignity and worth of every person?” Pelosi asked.
Likewise, CNBC’s John Harwood said, “However repugnant their actions, MS-13 gang members are human beings IMHO.”
Madness.
The question is whether it was fair or wise of Trump to call MS-13 animals, and whether it’s a morally objectionable statement overall.
The American Heritage Dictionary third definition of “animal” is “a person who behaves in a bestial or brutish manner.” By that definition, “animal” isn’t nearly strong enough.
Today's news spat over MS-13 is part of a longer-running drama. Since Trump took office, there has been an effort to downplay the gang’s significance even as Trump has rhetorically raised its profile.
He's not the only president to do so. In 2012 — you know, under President Obama — MS-13 was formally designated a transnational criminal organization by the Treasury Department. At the time, this was characterized approvingly as a “crackdown” by the Obama administration.
MS-13 (or Mara Salvatrucha), a primarily El Salvador-based gang that started in Los Angeles, was believed to have about 10,000 members across the country at that time and Central America. They were known for hacking enemies to death, executing people in broad daylight in view of witnesses, and fatally beating people with...
Border Patrol Agents Arrest Previously Deported MS-13 Gang Member
TUCSON, Ariz. – Ajo Station Border Patrol agents apprehended seven men Friday morning northwest of Lukeville and later identified one of them as a 22-year-old “Mara Salvatrucha” (MS-13) gang member from Honduras.
Agents patrolling a remote mountain trail encountered and arrested the group for entering the country illegally and subsequently transported them to the Ajo Station for further processing.
During processing, agents identified Carlos Ordoñez-Rodriguez as a member of the MS-13 street gang, with an extensive criminal history in Colorado, who had been removed from the U.S. in 2017.
Ordoñez will remain in federal custody pending a court disposition for criminal immigration violations. The other men arrested were identified as...
Agents patrolling a remote mountain trail encountered and arrested the group for entering the country illegally and subsequently transported them to the Ajo Station for further processing.
During processing, agents identified Carlos Ordoñez-Rodriguez as a member of the MS-13 street gang, with an extensive criminal history in Colorado, who had been removed from the U.S. in 2017.
Ordoñez will remain in federal custody pending a court disposition for criminal immigration violations. The other men arrested were identified as...
Liberal Media Doubles Down On Support For Brutal MS-13 Gang
President Donald Trump didn’t call all immigrants “animals” like the media wants you to believe. The president was specifically referring to members of the brutal MS-13 gang who are operating in and out of the U.S.
Journalists have been sharing a selectively edited clip posted by C-SPAN that only shows a short portion of the meeting about sanctuary cities that took place at the White House on Wednesday.
The Daily Caller’s Vince Coglianese and Stephanie Hamill call the media out on this and debate other topics in this episode of The DC Today.
“You wouldn’t believe how bad these people are. These aren’t people, these are animals, and we’re taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that’s never happened before,” Trump said.
These comments were in response to the discussion about MS-13 gang members trying to enter the U.S. illegally.
“The press really would like to see President Trump be a big fat racist. But it doesn’t work here, the fact is he was asked about...
Journalists have been sharing a selectively edited clip posted by C-SPAN that only shows a short portion of the meeting about sanctuary cities that took place at the White House on Wednesday.
The Daily Caller’s Vince Coglianese and Stephanie Hamill call the media out on this and debate other topics in this episode of The DC Today.
“You wouldn’t believe how bad these people are. These aren’t people, these are animals, and we’re taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that’s never happened before,” Trump said.
These comments were in response to the discussion about MS-13 gang members trying to enter the U.S. illegally.
“The press really would like to see President Trump be a big fat racist. But it doesn’t work here, the fact is he was asked about...
The 90 Miles Mystery Box: Episode #260
You have come across a mystery box. But what is inside?
It could be literally anything from the serene to the horrific,
from the beautiful to the repugnant,
from the mysterious to the familiar.
If you decide to open it, you could be disappointed,
you could be inspired, you could be appalled.
This is not for the faint of heart or the easily offended.
You have been warned.
Thursday, May 17, 2018
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